a guy from work GAVE ME 15 books for free which is nice (sword of azrael, cataclism,no mans land 1-5, contagion, dark victory,dark knight returns,dark knight strikes again,knightfall/quest/end and a few others).
ill have to look out for @what happend to the cape crusader”, but right now i have r.i.p, battle for the cowel,and siege prelude being delivered soon.
is the collection what i have a good one to start off with?
There are TWO stories where Batman ‘dies.’ I’m the penultimate issue of ‘Final Crisis’ and at the end of ‘Batman: R.I.P.’ Both stories have been collected in trade, but it should be worth noting that FC happens AFTER R.I.P. making the whole storyline pretty inconsequential. He dies FOR REAL in ‘Whatever Happened To the Cape Crusader’ by Neil Gaiman (also in TPB) and this is a MUCH BETTER story than the other two.
I respect Your Openion, But I disagree, Marvel has been more down to earth this Decade & Done a LOT less to Contridict its continuity then DC, wich seems to Contridict past stories at every turn Not to mention DC’s events like Amazons attack & Countdown were horribly written! all of Marvel’s have been at least DECENT! & i think the fact that Marvel has Done better in sales this Decade is Proof enough.
gotta agree with you k. I enjoyed crisis on ie,
no clue what was the point of Final crisis. only cool thing was the return of barry and still debating about how to feel about the death of batman.
Superheroes in the DC U have finally acheived that mythological status with Final Crisis. The Marvel U has gone nowhere near that. Final Crisis is entirely about keeping the constant true mode of reality away from the borders of the fatalistic fallen (satanic) nihilistic idealogy of Darkseid and his lord Mandrakk. The New Gods aren’t just metahumans, they really are the stuff of mythological Gods. DC version .
Well, the ramifications of Final Crisis haven’t been fully explained yet, mainly due to the fact that it was so self-contained.
But, what I can tell you is that Final Crisis has gotten rid of the Monitors (who are now mortal humans now) and is the beginning of the fabled 5th World, which the New Gods believed Earth would become.
I think it gave some sort of order to the multiverse within the DCU, outside of everything being on ‘parallel planes.’ But what that order is, I’ve yet to figure out.
Batman is trapped somewhere in time/space after his fight with Darkseid.
The last page of Final Crisis #7 has Batman at the deathbed of an elderly Anthro the first boy, in the Stone Age. And Batman continues drawing New Gods symbols on the cave wall, that Anthro had begun.
I re-read the whole of FC again last night and Morrison even seemed to be writing in the style of Kirby somewhat. If you read the fourth world stuff or The Eternals, Kirby threw a million ideas into each story
I remember a story Mike Royer told of Kirby talking about a scene to him on the phone and when royer went to his house a few hours later to see the pencils the it was different, Jack had forgotten the scene and drew a completely different one with a whole different bunch of ideas.
Ok, yeah, i see where your coming from. But the only reason I can think of why the Omega Beams don’t kill Superman is because, well, he’s Superman! LoL
I’ve read comics where Darkseid blasts the Hell outta Superman, and, while it looks like it hurts him, it doesn’t kill him.
Still, I wish his Omega Beams were powerful enough to seriously hurt or kill a being like Superman. Right now he only seems to use it to disintegrate wretches who annoy him (eg Desaad).
Well, Morrison didn’t create the Omega effect. The immortal Jack Kirby (who created the New Gods) created that whole idea.
The entire idea of the Omega Sanction/Beams sending a victimes’ mind and soul to a different space & time wasn’t really implied anymore, if not forgotten, and simply made a sort of “disintigration laser”.
See what I mean about the tie-ins then, Johnnyhorror? If you have to read an ancillary book to get such a vital plot-point, that’s not right. In all fairness to readers, that should be included in the main series. And the friggin’ LO3W mini hasn’t even finished yet!
LOL. Don’t know if you’re making a joke or not LordBifford, but you do have a point. I’ll go back to my original – yet disjointed – analogy: if you’ve gotta explain a joke, it ain’t funny.
DAMN G! Hit it HARD!!! Love that… stop the bitching, whining, complaining… get your game on!
wow, this guy’s amazing!
Thank you.
Awesome rant, Grant!
love the rants
Great message Grant.
@comicculturewarrior
thanks for the reply
a guy from work GAVE ME 15 books for free which is nice (sword of azrael, cataclism,no mans land 1-5, contagion, dark victory,dark knight returns,dark knight strikes again,knightfall/quest/end and a few others).
ill have to look out for @what happend to the cape crusader”, but right now i have r.i.p, battle for the cowel,and siege prelude being delivered soon.
is the collection what i have a good one to start off with?
thanks again
lee
There are TWO stories where Batman ‘dies.’ I’m the penultimate issue of ‘Final Crisis’ and at the end of ‘Batman: R.I.P.’ Both stories have been collected in trade, but it should be worth noting that FC happens AFTER R.I.P. making the whole storyline pretty inconsequential. He dies FOR REAL in ‘Whatever Happened To the Cape Crusader’ by Neil Gaiman (also in TPB) and this is a MUCH BETTER story than the other two.
Elliott
im new to comics, as ive only read the knightfall series (which i loved).
but my question is, is the complete crisis story available in one book yet, and is this the story where it shows how batman died?
thanks
Fix what?
Good thing they DID fix it.
I read the hardcover.
I respect Your Openion, But I disagree, Marvel has been more down to earth this Decade & Done a LOT less to Contridict its continuity then DC, wich seems to Contridict past stories at every turn Not to mention DC’s events like Amazons attack & Countdown were horribly written! all of Marvel’s have been at least DECENT! & i think the fact that Marvel has Done better in sales this Decade is Proof enough.
Thank goodness for Marvel? Marvel blows for the most part!
Dan dido killed DC (there past 3 years have sucked!) In my openion (Thank goodness for Marvel IDW & Darkhorse)
gotta agree with you k. I enjoyed crisis on ie,
no clue what was the point of Final crisis. only cool thing was the return of barry and still debating about how to feel about the death of batman.
Superheroes in the DC U have finally acheived that mythological status with Final Crisis. The Marvel U has gone nowhere near that. Final Crisis is entirely about keeping the constant true mode of reality away from the borders of the fatalistic fallen (satanic) nihilistic idealogy of Darkseid and his lord Mandrakk. The New Gods aren’t just metahumans, they really are the stuff of mythological Gods. DC version .
Well, the ramifications of Final Crisis haven’t been fully explained yet, mainly due to the fact that it was so self-contained.
But, what I can tell you is that Final Crisis has gotten rid of the Monitors (who are now mortal humans now) and is the beginning of the fabled 5th World, which the New Gods believed Earth would become.
I think it gave some sort of order to the multiverse within the DCU, outside of everything being on ‘parallel planes.’ But what that order is, I’ve yet to figure out.
Anyone else?
Elliott
what exactly did final crisis do for the DCU?
crisis on infinte earths made a cool new universe
infinite crisis brought back the multiverse
what did final crisis do?
Hi, tringrad50.
Batman is trapped somewhere in time/space after his fight with Darkseid.
The last page of Final Crisis #7 has Batman at the deathbed of an elderly Anthro the first boy, in the Stone Age. And Batman continues drawing New Gods symbols on the cave wall, that Anthro had begun.
I re-read the whole of FC again last night and Morrison even seemed to be writing in the style of Kirby somewhat. If you read the fourth world stuff or The Eternals, Kirby threw a million ideas into each story
I remember a story Mike Royer told of Kirby talking about a scene to him on the phone and when royer went to his house a few hours later to see the pencils the it was different, Jack had forgotten the scene and drew a completely different one with a whole different bunch of ideas.
hey does Batman R.I.P stand for Rest in Prehistoric (times) ? ;P
Ok, yeah, i see where your coming from. But the only reason I can think of why the Omega Beams don’t kill Superman is because, well, he’s Superman! LoL
I’ve read comics where Darkseid blasts the Hell outta Superman, and, while it looks like it hurts him, it doesn’t kill him.
So, I dunno?
Still, I wish his Omega Beams were powerful enough to seriously hurt or kill a being like Superman. Right now he only seems to use it to disintegrate wretches who annoy him (eg Desaad).
Well, Morrison didn’t create the Omega effect. The immortal Jack Kirby (who created the New Gods) created that whole idea.
The entire idea of the Omega Sanction/Beams sending a victimes’ mind and soul to a different space & time wasn’t really implied anymore, if not forgotten, and simply made a sort of “disintigration laser”.
The Omega Sanction – forced to live successively worse lives – feels overcomplicated. It sounds like “Who Is Donna Troy?”
Why couldn’t they make it simpler, like disintegration beams that can kill absolutely anything?
Check out CCW episode 2.15 and 2.16 for our answer to that tringrad.
Jose
I read Final Crisis 1-7. I’m still lost on one thing. …WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO BATMAN!?!?!?
That’s OK Johnnyhorror, we won’t kick you out of the club house…even thought you’re obviously wrong and smell of old sweat socks.
JUST KIDDING!
Thanks for being a loyal viewer and making some great comments!
Elliott
See what I mean about the tie-ins then, Johnnyhorror? If you have to read an ancillary book to get such a vital plot-point, that’s not right. In all fairness to readers, that should be included in the main series. And the friggin’ LO3W mini hasn’t even finished yet!
Sheesh.
Elliott
LOL. Don’t know if you’re making a joke or not LordBifford, but you do have a point. I’ll go back to my original – yet disjointed – analogy: if you’ve gotta explain a joke, it ain’t funny.
Thanks for commenting!
Elliott